I've started over from nothing so many times - Always thougth I had to do it on my own - that always meant doing things my way - and my way always got me right back to square one in the end. It wasn't until I started to listen - to the experience of others - and to do things differently - even when I didn't want to do so - that I finally found a straight path in recovery.
Wombat - A Friend of Bill, USA